2018-08-20 05:31:39
                        
                             
                            
                    
Okay, I just started mining Snowblossom on a workstation and I am getting about 15 sec mining rate at about 19 H/s and it says it will take about 3600 minutes to earn a share?  Will it take 2.5 days to earn a share and start earning snowblossom?
                    
                 
                            aikida3k
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:35:53
                        
                             
                            
                    
@aikida3k what sort of drive?  Sounds like spinning hard drive, which doesn't work well.
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:36:39
                        
                             
                            
                    
Yes SATA HD
                    
                 
                            aikida3k
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:38:16
                        
                             
                            
                    
So mining is in order of best to worst, RAM, NVME, SSD, HDD
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:41:04
                        
                             
                            
                    
So what are the performance differences?  I'm looking for some optimization to put equipment I already have into use.  I have servers I mine a CPU coin with with 1.2 TB storage drives but they don't have that much RAM.  What hashrate would 256 GB of RAM expect to get?
                    
                 
                            aikida3k
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:41:58
                        
                             
                            
                    
So the ram question gets complicated :wink:
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:42:20
                        
                             
                            
                    
If you can get the entire field into ram, then you are pretty quickly CPU bound
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:42:40
                        
                             
                            
                    
however, sharing the field over the network is surprisingly efficent
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:43:04
                        
                             
                            
                    
so a memory machine can let other machines on the local network become cpu bound as well
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:43:30
                        
                             
                            
                    
but roughly 100kh/s per modern fast core
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:44:17
                        
                             
                            
                    
On my home network I have an only dell R900 with 256gb ram.  It can't do much with its CPUs but supports about 1MH/s of mining via other machines that are using its ram
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:45:00
                        
                             
                            
                    
https://github.com/snowblossomcoin/snowblossom/wiki/Mining-Tuning#arktika
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:45:08
                        
                             
                            
                    
That is worth a read if you are getting into it
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:45:57
                        
                             
                            
                    
What are you going to do when the fields get over 256 GB ?
                    
                 
                            aikida3k
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:46:43
                        
                             
                            
                    
me personally?  I might buy multiple 64gb (or whatever is cost effective) machines and have them work as one.
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:47:02
                        
                             
                            
                    
I expect the overall difficulty will take a nice nose dive and then mostly people will be NVME and SSD mining
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:47:08
                        
                             
                            
                    
which was my intent when I wrote the damn thing
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:47:19
                        
                             
                            
                    
but who knows
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:47:50
                        
                             
                            
                    
It looks like it might work out as a form of staking.
                    
                 
                            aikida3k
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:47:52
                        
                             
                            
                    
actually
                    
                 
                            aikida3k
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:48:07
                        
                             
                            
                    
Stake memory in order to receive POW rewards
                    
                 
                            aikida3k
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:49:07
                        
                             
                            
                    
I don't know what staking means in this context
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:49:10
                        
                             
                            
                    
So it looks like if I am serious about this coin I buy RAM for my servers and cluster them as artika miners
                    
                 
                            aikida3k
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:49:16
                        
                             
                            
                    
I've heard it before but didn't understand it then either
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:49:37
                        
                             
                            
                    
yeah, cluster ram mine is probably the most cost effective
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:49:51
                        
                             
                            
                    
and has the plus of if the field gets bigger, just increase the cluster size
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:49:57
                        
                             
                            
                    
which also increases total throughput
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:50:44
                        
                             
                            
                    
In the context it means you have to offer memory in order to receive reward.  You stake something of value to receive a reward.  Most pure POS coins stake the coin itself; they are basically a form of interest.
                    
                 
                            aikida3k
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:51:05
                        
                             
                            
                    
Neat.
                    
                 
                            aikida3k
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:52:02
                        
                             
                            
                    
looks like it is about $1000 for a 64gb bare bones machine.  looks like ram price has gone down.
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:54:23
                        
                             
                            
                    
Great.  Thanks for the tips!
                    
                 
                            aikida3k
                        
                        2018-08-20 05:54:41
                        
                             
                            
                    
:slightly_smiling_face:
                    
                 
                            aikida3k
                        
                        2018-08-20 06:01:23
                        
                             
                            
                    
no problem
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 06:01:32
                        
                             
                            
                    
I should get back to writing json rpc interfaces
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 12:13:02
                        
                             
                            
                    
Hey Guys :wink: Sorry for my question maybe is a easy answer, can i launch more them 1 instance to mine on a single machine ?
To be more clear, can i use all of my ram to setup one instance and use my based storage to run another instance. Do that gonna decrease my global hashrate ?
Second dummies question, let's say i have 3T NVMEssd on a single computer, can i launch multiple instance or it will split my performance between every instance ?
Thanks for sharing !
                    
                 
                            Bibi187
                        
                        2018-08-20 13:45:55
                        
                             
                            
                    
@Bibi187 precache, thread count
                    
                 
                            Rotonen
                        
                        2018-08-20 14:40:30
                        
                             
                            
                    
Hum kay so the limitation will inc from processor thread
                    
                 
                            Bibi187
                        
                        2018-08-20 14:54:13
                        
                             
                            
                    
https://ark.intel.com/products/120491/Intel-Xeon-Gold-6152-Processor-30_25M-Cache-2_10-GHz The solution :smile: Intel® Xeon® Gold 6152 Processor (30.25M Cache, 2.10 GHz) quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.
                    
                 
                            Bibi187
                        
                        2018-08-20 14:56:56
                        
                             
                            
                    
silly intel, gold is for putting into a sock and mugging people
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 15:02:05
                        
                             
                            
                    
He said it is correct, robbed our wallet and let us buy expensive CPU
                    
                 
                            cnool
                        
                        2018-08-20 15:13:58
                        
                             
                            
                    
One day they launched a diamond CPU, which is more expensive.
                    
                 
                            cnool
                        
                        2018-08-20 16:12:27
                        
                             
                            
                    
Is the RichList down?
                    
                 
                            CryptoQuan
                        
                        2018-08-20 16:12:48
                        
                             
                            
                    
Probably
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 16:13:23
                        
                             
                            
                    
I bought more and wanted to see my new status!
                    
                 
                            CryptoQuan
                        
                        2018-08-20 16:13:32
                        
                             
                            
                    
I’ve got issues
                    
                 
                            CryptoQuan
                        
                        2018-08-20 16:16:34
                        
                             
                            
                    
I'll update it after I get to work
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 16:18:02
                        
                             
                            
                    
So you go to work to work on SNOW?
                    
                 
                            CryptoQuan
                        
                        2018-08-20 16:21:20
                        
                             
                            
                    
@Bibi187 more memory channels per core is good
                    
                 
                            Rotonen
                        
                        2018-08-20 16:22:32
                        
                             
                            
                    
@CryptoQuan heh, I do many things
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 16:42:41
                        
                             
                            
                    
updated
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 17:15:51
                        
                             
                            
                    
Hmm. That's kinda scary
                    
                 
                            Clueless
                        
                        2018-08-20 17:38:39
                        
                             
                            
                    
u wot m8?!
                    
                 
                            Fireduck
                        
                        2018-08-20 17:46:39
                        
                             
                            
                    
well, even btc only has ~1M addresses with balance
                    
                 
                            Rotonen
                        
                        2018-08-20 17:47:10
                        
                             
                            
                    
last i checked, over 10^6 and under 2^10 addresses have balance
                    
                 
                            Rotonen
                        
                        2018-08-20 17:47:23
                        
                             
                            
                    
and the 1M cutoff is at ~0.2
                    
                 
                            Rotonen