https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Snowblossom The trail of white luiquidy goo left upon a females face after relieving yourself. The appearance is that of a Blossom... made of Snow.
@Fireduck Was this intention?
Nope
it was a randomly generated development name and then stuck
both beautiful
fluids regardless
Nice
making a sheet of mining hardware and results
Anyone with data to input message me
if interested
AWS c4.4xlarge 13K
memory mining?
if so, it probably needs to warm up more
@Jadefalke go for the M instances, not cpu limited
how to get a wallet?
Samsung SM961 (Connection PCIe 3.0 x4) - 35kh/s
@hashman88 download release, run node, and run client. it will auto-generate a wallet in a folder called wallet inside snow release folder
You should enable commenting on this spreadsheet
hello @Lev
what does that mean?
help, anyone...
open node.conf
replace the database stuff db_type with these two lines
```db_type=lobstack db_path=node_db/mainnet```
you've got a mangled version of that... unmangle it and should work. @polarbear
@Lev Thanks in advance, I'll try...
now sinc the blockchain, I guess...
how big its size ?
what do I put as pool in the pool config?
@Jadefalke if you go to the GitHub there is a pool list. You will see all the avail pools.
Believe there are only two running at the moment.
Snowday and snowplough Add them to your config
@cXplexus if we mine through the pool, do we still have to download snowfield?
Yes, you just don’t need to run the node or client that’s jus for checking balance and or sending SB
@polarbear I would also download field 7 just to have it for when the time comes
Ten generate snowfield off
oh, I see...
@cXplexus how much SNOW do you have?
@polarbear idk haven’t looked in awhile
how often is a snowstorm?
once ram mining is essentially gone, doubly seldom per field
what has it essentially been like in the past?
the answer is not linear so if you have to ask on the premise i’m empty on how to answer - anyone else have a good way to explain? that’ll likely be FAQ
of course it's not linear. it's exponential based on your answer of double. The question then is, what was the time to finish 2. Or even 5. One can extrapolate from there to get a rough idea on each one.
currently it’s not on that curve and the curve bending depends on the willingness of miners to obtain or rent high ram capacity
we had explosive growth after announcing on bitcointalk and got to 6 in a matter of like 2 days
so currently fairly hard to estimate, but will stabilize to expected eventually
Ok -- thanks.
but since then our hashrate leveled out a lot
i suppose a lot of people came to mine early blocks just to be on the safe side and left when that pushed the difficulty
I think it was people renting VMs
also, back when the snowfield fit in most people's RAM, their hashrates were much higher
still mostly seems to be as 1M .. 2M
so it seems the best option is to hold in ram or in NVME
big iron is in the 5M .. 10M ballpark
yeah, and the capability / willingness of people to do ram goes down as new fields kick in
quality SSDs are cheap enough and one cannot really feasibly botnet (too random hardware) or drive-by-browser-js mine this either
Lol , why is this JavaScript downloading 64gb
That would be kinda funny
The Snowblossom Wiki has been updated! https://github.com/snowblossomcoin/snowblossom/wiki
@Fireduck don’t worry, someone will try
how long approximately until next snow storm?
When hash doubles
hard drives are so slow, I want to replace my backup server with ssd
it is almost not insanely expensive
what was the nethash when we changed from 5 to 6?
1.2 GH ?
is there a diff chart somewhere?
@fydel https://github.com/snowblossomcoin/snowblossom/blob/master/lib/src/NetworkParamsProd.java#L30-L41 ``` map.put(0, new SnowFieldInfo("cricket", 1L * gb, "2c363d33550f5c4da16279d1fa89f7a9",25)); map.put(1, new SnowFieldInfo("shrew", 2L * gb, "4626ba6c78e0d777d35ae2044f8882fa",27)); map.put(2, new SnowFieldInfo("stoat", 4L * gb, "2948b321266dfdec11fbdc45f46cf959",29)); map.put(3, new SnowFieldInfo("ocelot", 8L * gb, "33a2fb16f08347c2dc4cbcecb4f97aeb",31)); map.put(4, new SnowFieldInfo("pudu", 16L * gb, "0cdcb8629bef77fbe1f9b740ec3897c9",33)); map.put(5, new SnowFieldInfo("badger", 32L * gb, "e9abff32aa7f74795be2aa539a079489",35)); map.put(6, new SnowFieldInfo("capybara", 64L * gb, "e68678fadb1750feedfa11522270497f",37)); map.put(7, new SnowFieldInfo("llama", 128L * gb, "147d379701f621ebe53f5a511bd6c380",39)); map.put(8, new SnowFieldInfo("bugbear", 256L * gb, "533ae42a04a609c4b45464b1aa9e6924",41)); map.put(9, new SnowFieldInfo("hippo", 512L * gb, "ecdb28f1912e2266a71e71de601117d2",43)); map.put(10,new SnowFieldInfo("shai-hulud", 1024L * gb, "cc883468a08f48b592a342a2cdf5bcba",45)); map.put(11,new SnowFieldInfo("avanc", 2048L * gb, "a2a4076f6cde947935db06e5fc5bbd14",47)); ```
thanks
the far right number, 25,27,29...
is the difficulty that it's activated I believe
okay
@Clueless we may want to simplify that.
next field as ~916MH/s
I’d GCE but that’s like $1 an hour lol
How were you getting 34 cents @Fireduck
what's the current hash rate?
@cXplexus, Preemptible price (USD)
Thought that’s what I was selecting
what instance and region are you looking at?
Iowa is the cheapest
And the 32 I’m not in front of a computer
n1-standard-32 32 120GB $1.5200 $0.3200
The second price is the preemptible
add a few cents for the SSD to load the snowfield from to start up reasonably quickly
there are some similar things with AWS spot instances
but the spot instance prices are more fluid so it can be a little bit of a mess
probably room to have a lower cost there though if you are welling to screw with it
Pushing out 1.1.1 release now
That have windows?
yes, but hold up. I screwed up building the release
built from wrong branch and tags are not removable so 1.1.1 is forever nonsense :wink:
1.1.2 going up
it is on the http://snowblossom.org website
will upload to github as soon as it gets synced
Got it
hmm this may be bad
are we doomed?
loading food and water into the stairwell now
that will be my new home
not sure if my pool has 730MH out of the estimated 760MH on the network
@Fireduck Also, it might've been me sending data to a node. I telneted at one point and pasted something by mistake while screwing around
oh ay Brain, what are we goingta do tonight?! Same thing we do every night Pinky, we try to take over the world!
mwahahahahaha
I should implement the pool failover
I do restart the pool on occassion.
or your pool machine could be thrown into a pool of jello
I would just make a second pool. backup.snowday or snowday2
ha
you should not have the one hostname point to multiple boxes
that will cause lots of shares to be rejected
@Fireduck is a subdomain good enough? I'm not sure how you intend it yet.
would they work together/conjunction, or just failover to if one goes down?
failover, so they would operate completely independently with separate share pools
then I will likely setup a separate subdomain, different host. `backup.snowday`
the question is, will anyone want round robin or just failover?
hmm. round robin sounds cooler. Once we have pool RPC I'd have my interface show stats from both. :)
also, because of your fantastic efficiency improvements, I can downgrade the vm server quite a bit, but I've avoided due to potential downtime
updating snowplough from 1.0.7 to 1.1.2 - a brief service interruption is expected
anyone understand this error? ``` Exception in thread "main" org.rocksdb.RocksDBException: While lock file: node_db/mainnet/LOCK: Resource temporarily unavailable ```
yes
node stopped, but apparently not properly?
it means you already have something running that is holding taht lock
yeah, if you recently killed it and it isn't really dead yet
ah ok. Just takes a few minutes to actually stop completely.
when I start it back up it just sits at `INFO snowblossom.lib.db.rocksdb.JRocksDB <init> Loadng RocksDB with path node_db/mainnet` and doesn't load any blocks
might be rocksdb doing a cleanup
give it a minute or two
sounds good.
thanks
These errors are what I received after upgrading to 1.1.2 and running the node.
@Fireduck Do you know how I can correct this?
did you used to be using lobstack?
yeah, set db_type=lobstack
That is already set.
I kept the old config files the same
double check youa re still using the same config file
the new .bat file I think might be pointing to something you aren't expecting
node-oh-damn.conf
I fixed it.
and now with columnar alignment and actually sorted by hashrate: https://snowplough.kekku.li/
@Rotonen i have an i7 6700 and an EVO 750 and an EVO 850 and mining with them both at the same time, each gets max 16 KH/s with my CPU at 100% - does that mean my configuration is bad because it's bottlenecked by the CPU?
sounds more like you have sata drives and not the best sata controller
yeah they're SATA drives
or way too many threads, or something to do with the moons of saturn
I haven't been able to get more than about 18 hk/s out of SATA in any configuration
server grade SAS i've pushed to 30k, so that's not too bad, it'd seem
snowblossom is mostly about the seek latency, SATA is not made for seek latency as it's for spinny disks
i see. I guess I will have to look at M.2 drives then
that's what you were talking about earlier, right?
if you wait a few days there will be more information in our hardware spread sheet :wink:
I also have one PCI-E 4x slot
also mind you, not all m.2 is pci-e, but this can also be on the motherboard side, and on the drive side
and as a bonus on top the block diagram of the motherboard matters as well, which kinds of pci-e lanes, backed by what, directly hooked to what
oh, i don't think it is. mobo manual says if I use the m.2 slot, it shuts down SATA port 1
then you'd gain nothing apart from very minor power savings, if even that (well, less space used)
I wish I had a motherboard with like 8 m.2 slots
block diagram is a good keyword for figuring hardware setups out
the most I can find is 3
the problem is not m.2 slots, it's pci-e buses
@Fireduck 4 per pci-e riser
i guess i'll have to look at getting a whole new PC just for snow blossom
Are there any good pci-e risers for m.2? I've seen some, but don't trust them
@THX 1138 4EB correct, mortgage house as well. This is lambo-o-clock.
@Tyler Boone then there's also the mess of direct pci-e vs. on-motherboard pci-e switches vs. southbridge pci-e vs. direct-cpu-pci-e (the last one is the viable one, but how does one communicate that easiest?)
:stuck_out_tongue:
Lol
If i had a satoshi for every lambo comment I read
Then you could buy a coffee if anyone accepted bitcoin?
in general if you find ZFS admins touting something as good for ZIL it'll be good for snowblossom (although will come with supercapacitors for powerdown write fail mitigation, which is not necessary for snowblossom)
you'd have about 0.0004 bitcoin
i'm hoping to find something that fits into a regular PC case
i thoroughly recommend passively cooled mini-itx
low footprint, no noise
also 35W CPUs are mighty fine for snowblossom
although it would also be cool to have something that's cooled by those liquids that you can submerge stuff in.. like phase change cooling liquids with bubbles are awesome
@Rotonen have a recommendation for a tiny board with onboard cpu for snowblossom mining?
i will still want to use my PC to play games, I think
maybe it would be most cost-effective to have something dedicated. idk
I'm just mining on my gaming PC
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/H370-HD3-rev-10#kf <- on a quick look that'd be the current cheapest good one for snowblossom, but not very small, though Intel H370 Ultra Durable motherboard with USB 3.1 Gen2 Type-A & USB3.1 Gen1 Type-C, Intel GbE LAN with cFosSpeed, Dual M.2, 7 colors RGB LED strips support, Intel CNVi WIFI upgradable slot, Smart Fan 5, CEC 2019, DualBIOS™, Anti-Sulfur Resistor Supports 8th Gen Intel® Core™ Processors Dual Channel Non-ECC Unbuffered DDR4 New Hybrid Digital PWM Design Intel® CNVi 802.11ac Wave2 2T2R WIFI upgradable High Quality Audio Capacitors and Audio Noise Guard with LED Trace Path Lighting Dual Ultra-Fast M.2 with PCIe Gen3 X4/X2 & SATA interface RGB FUSION supports RGB LED strips in 7 colors Intel® Native USB 3.1 Gen2 USB Type-A Intel® USB 3.1 Gen1 USB Type-C™ Intel® GbE LAN with cFosSpeed Internet Accelerator Software CEC 2019 Ready, Save the Power as Easy as One Click Smart Fan 5 features Multiple Temperature Sensors and Hybrid Fan Headers with FAN STOP Anti-Sulfur Resistors Design Ultra Durable™ 25KV ESD and 15KV Surge LAN Protection Intel® Optane™ Memory Ready Lightning-Fast Intel® Thunderbolt™ 3 AIC Support
I'm mining on every random thing I can find in my house
then if 2 x ssd is fine, this seems pretty damn sweet: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-B250I-GAMING/ ROG Strix B250I Gaming mini-ITX gaming motherboard features double-decker heatsink, Aura Sync RGB LED, Intel Gigabit LAN, dual M.2 and SupremeFX S1220A audio codec for superior sound quality.
no love for AMD?
the availability of their new 35W processors is very low
otherwise they'd be in the race as well, they do more pci-e
but i want my gear without moving parts
relatedly my PSU of choice: http://www2.seasonic.com/product/platinum-520/ With 80 PLUS Platinum® rating and the use of high-grade components, fanless power supplies such as the Platinum 520 Fanless are also extremely efficient.
and any big enough heatpiped heatsink will do on a 35W CPU, convection pulls the air up
and if the case has an open top and bottom, that'll help
or just bolt the boards on a wall
can actually look pretty neat with fancy wiring too
you prefer fanless because noise or energy efficiency or mean time before failure?
8 RAM slots + 3 m.3 slots seems like an ideal base
@Tyler Boone triple the price, though
ahh
@Tyler Boone if you go for ram mining now, just get a dual socket workstation or server board, but if going for ssd, small and dense seems more sensible
@Tyler Boone you get half an SSD (or a cheap, but good enough SSD) for the price difference of the mobo alone there
would you need to get a set of eight match RAM DIMMS?
or just risk it, price is king
i've successfully mixed two sets of two that werent even the same brand before
but how's that 8 slot design even split across the CPU memory channels?
oh that's one of the enthusiast desktop thingies, skylake-sp, that comes with potential for weirdness like multiple in-processor numa nodes
and skylake is still a ring bus design, not the new mesh interconnect hotness, so that's a thing to keep in mind for seek latency
sounds like choosing hardware is a minefield
yeah, if recommending something to people, going for basic good enough consumer hardware is better than going for platforms where it's sorta expected one has a decade or more experience
@THX 1138 4EB well, just get the simplest and cheapest thing with the most minimal set of what you need and you'll avoid all that nonsense
as in low power coffee lake i3 (or even pentium or celeron, they're really cheap, and plenty good enough), a matching motherboard with 2x pci-e m.2 and done
and that can be done mini-itx, with wifi, without moving parts, fully passive
so the only wire will be the power cord
refer to intel documentation for details on what i mean for the numa silliness they've invented for that: https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-xeon-processor-scalable-family-technical-overview The new generation, the Intel® Xeon® processor Scalable family (formerly code-named Skylake-SP), is based on 14nm process technology, with many new and enhanced architecture changes including, Skylake Mesh Architecture and Intel® Advanced Vector Extensions 512 (Intel® AVX-512).
the consumer X series (i9 or whtever?) processors are essentially a prerun of that
thanks :slightly_smiling_face: i know what some of these words mean!
@ppp don't bother getting more SATA drives; they might not be very good, depending on how your motherboard handles them. Read the discussion above :slightly_smiling_face:
@THX 1138 4EB they're still only good up to about 1/3 of pci-e drives, but hey, you could put 12 of them in a single system, though
@THX 1138 4EB then you'd max out your sata controller, so better get a proper sas backplane and a proper sas controller
yeah but if your CPU is at 100% with two SATA drives you're gonna be a sad panda. i will look up what these other things are that you just said :slightly_smiling_face:
(and hey presto, a lambo would be cheaper to just buy)
i dont even want a lambo. i just want to live in a shipping container in a shipping container city in a cyberpunk dystopia
maybe i could use a card like this https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-hyper-m2-card-pcie-30-x16-4x-m2-pcie-2242-60-80-110-slots-intel-vroc-support-for-asus-x299-moth?gclid=CjwKCAjw06LZBRBNEiwA2vgMVWCwZJCQmfEoun4weE-gIHP7-X10vo2pVq7danSEdWsh7cUWQUIDIBoC2jsQAvD_BwE to plug m.2 drives into my PCIE x4 slot? Buy from Scan - ASUS HYPER M.2 Card, PCIe 3.0 x16, 4x M.2 PCIe 2242/60/80/110 Slots, Intel VROC Support, for ASUS X299 Motherboards
with the HEDT processor and motherboard it'd be about the same price to just get into ram mining
best deal I could find was 64gb 3600 mhz DDR4 used for £500 on ebay
butt that's just for one set and i'd have to wait for more such offers
go for 256GB if you go for high ram, otherwise no real point
such minefield, much expense. wow!
for ssd mining, 16GB should do just fine, but 32GB is cheap enough
in order to use my current mobo i'd have to get an SSD that uses the PCIE 4x slot because my SATA and m.2 ports don't use PCIE
sounds like spreadsheet time
@Fireduck the one I linked should be decent
@Clueless you talking about a pcie riser?
yeah
would you mind posting the link again please?
thnks :slightly_smiling_face:
@THX 1138 4EB if @Rotonen suggests otherwise, listen to them
yeah rotonen said it would be cheaper to... i can't remember!
ok, the same price to do RAM mining
still, i wouldnt need to get a new motherboard or CPU if I just plugged one of those ricers into my existing desktop
be aware of your desktop's PCIE lane cap
Omg QUAD M2 slot
That’s insane
I have a x16
I might get that
Raid a bunch of 970
would that be a software RAID?
Idk probably it’s just a PCIE x16 slot
For 4 M2
Mind blown that would stick out so far haha
they;re not cheap, either!
if you got a server off ebay, it wouldn't be a piece of shit with DDR2 would it?