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2018-06-20 00:30:37
cXplexus
I would never buy electronics off eBay
2018-06-20 00:30:44
cXplexus
I’d only buy brand new
2018-06-20 00:30:52
cXplexus
Idk what people did to that stuff
2018-06-20 00:31:12
cXplexus
Rubbed theirs oily lays potato chip fingers all over chipsets and stuff
2018-06-20 00:33:27
THX 1138 4EB
this PCIE riser costs $450 from amazon Aplicata Quad M.2 NVMe SSD PCIe x8 Adapter
2018-06-20 00:34:06
Fireduck
$110 per port seems like a lot
2018-06-20 00:34:07
THX 1138 4EB
the dell adapter is "only" 250
2018-06-20 01:33:05
Clueless
it is, you can probably make your own for cheaper
2018-06-20 01:33:41
cXplexus
That x16 los great for me
2018-06-20 01:33:45
cXplexus
I got one of those slots
2018-06-20 01:33:58
cXplexus
My GPU I currently siting in i
2018-06-20 02:24:21
NoNoo
i'm starting to think i have an echo @samspeed
2018-06-20 02:25:43
samspeed
@NoNoo hmmm。。。。LOL
2018-06-20 02:37:56
SidGrip
I grabbed a server of ebay with ddr3 memory and it does the same as a Samsung 970 EVO 2TB - NVMe using one of these adapters https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BFSRJ21/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Get ultra-fast data access by adding a PCIe M.2 SSD to your existing...
2018-06-20 03:21:13
Fireduck
Should I issue a bug bounty?
2018-06-20 03:21:58
Fireduck
Only interested in things that would trigger an unintentional fork or spending other's funds.
2018-06-20 03:22:18
Fireduck
And I'm pretty confident I wouldn't be paying that out.
2018-06-20 03:22:30
Fireduck
Bounty in BCH
2018-06-20 04:23:00
Clueless
@Fireduck I might be willing to match bounty rewards in SNO or BTC.
2018-06-20 04:37:59
Fireduck
Appreciate that. We should talk.
2018-06-20 05:33:26
gratisangratis
@Fireduck can i know, how old are you?
2018-06-20 05:34:26
Fireduck
37
2018-06-20 05:36:23
gratisangratis
@Clueless How about you ?
2018-06-20 05:44:03
Fireduck
He is mid 20s. Can't remember exactly.
2018-06-20 05:46:02
gratisangratis
okay...
2018-06-20 05:51:36
gratisangratis
I am not an English speaking person. so maybe my english is a bit weird.
2018-06-20 05:55:45
Tyler Boone
you seem to be an English speaking person...
2018-06-20 05:55:52
Tyler Boone
or at least English typing
2018-06-20 06:01:32
gratisangratis
Is that true ? where are you from ? @Tyler Boone
2018-06-20 06:02:22
Tyler Boone
Seattle
2018-06-20 06:02:37
Tyler Boone
I mean, you are communicating in English right now
2018-06-20 06:03:41
Fireduck
Don't seem any stranger than anyone else around here
2018-06-20 06:04:19
gratisangratis
@Tyler Boone yes, I'm trying
2018-06-20 06:09:19
gratisangratis
or
2018-06-20 07:05:15
Rotonen
both the the 970 evo and pro are probably slower than the 960 pro and the 950 pro, but i enjoy being proven wrong
2018-06-20 08:29:39
polarbear
how to mine ?
2018-06-20 09:40:27
Rotonen
@cXplexus what’s what an electronics degreaser spray is for
2018-06-20 11:16:27
cXplexus
How are they faster?
2018-06-20 12:25:27
Sada
does this coin have gui wallet yet?
2018-06-20 12:45:32
snowmonster
not yet @Sada
2018-06-20 13:17:16
Burtnerd
Hi im very new to non gui wallets, but I think ive got it working, can anyone send me half a coin or something so I can test things out?
2018-06-20 13:24:30
cXplexus
@Burtnerd just send a small balance to yourself. There are 8 addresses in the wallet.
2018-06-20 13:24:45
cXplexus
Check out the wiki for a guide.
2018-06-20 13:28:16
Burtnerd
@cXplexus I wasn't planning on mining, I was just hoping to purchase
2018-06-20 13:38:49
Fireduck
@Burtnerd send me an address
2018-06-20 13:41:08
Burtnerd
@Fireduck flc27c88zldpp4g2mnfrazqj6uzg9xwzz98cpgnd
2018-06-20 13:42:56
Burtnerd
Are you ment to use the "snow:" prefix when sending or just the address?
2018-06-20 13:43:08
Fireduck
you can do it with or without the snow:
2018-06-20 13:43:35
Fireduck
it has an internal checksum that will fail if you use a snow on a testnet or anything else
2018-06-20 13:46:22
Burtnerd
how long does a transaction normally take?
2018-06-20 13:55:08
Fireduck
your node and client should see it almost instantly
2018-06-20 13:55:15
Fireduck
then it should be confirmed in about 10 minutes
2018-06-20 14:04:46
Burtnerd
damn something went wrong on my end, if I get things working I should be able to recover that using wallet.db right?
2018-06-20 14:15:32
Burtnerd
Im getting the error unable to access SnowBlossonNode_deploy.jar when I try to run node, its in the snowblossom-1.1.2 file like everything else, does it need to be moved?
2018-06-20 14:32:37
cXplexus
@Fireduck is 1.1.2 Win release? didn't see the -win-
2018-06-20 14:57:24
Rotonen
it’s java, all the same
2018-06-20 15:02:45
cXplexus
I know I was just wondering if I had to build from source or not.
2018-06-20 15:04:44
Rotonen
you may
2018-06-20 15:05:20
Rotonen
these look interesting a couple of hardware generations down the line: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/data-center-ssds/dc-p4500-series/dc-p4500-8tb-ruler-3d1.html Intel® SSD DC P4500 Series 8TB specifications, benchmarks, features, Intel® technology, reviews, pricing, and where to buy.
2018-06-20 15:07:31
Rotonen
on the short term 960 pro and the asus pci-e card look good: https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/ssd-960-pro-m-2-2tb-mz-v6p2t0bw/ https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboard-Accessory/HYPER-M-2-X16-CARD/ Discover the latest features and innovations available in the SSD 960 PRO M.2 2TB. Find the perfect Memory & Storage for you! ASUS USA: HYPER M.2 X16 CARD | Motherboard Accessories | ASUS USA
2018-06-20 15:26:41
cXplexus
hm
2018-06-20 15:28:00
cXplexus
@Rotonen the 970 evo is cheaper than the 960 pro with slightly faster speeds.
2018-06-20 15:28:54
cXplexus
unless your talking about the peak random mixed io speeds
2018-06-20 15:33:59
Fireduck
All we care about is random reads
2018-06-20 15:35:22
cXplexus
Gotcha!
2018-06-20 16:01:55
Rotonen
we also care about the specifics not covered well by sales numbers or common benchmarks, like sustained random seek latency jitter
2018-06-20 16:02:43
Rotonen
i’ll not get a 970 evo myself, that’s not cheap enough in relation for what i seek
2018-06-20 16:03:15
Rotonen
also storage clearance prices on 950 pro and 960 pro can be pretty good currently
2018-06-20 16:12:13
Jimtalksdata
@Rotonen this is covered by anand’s performance consistency metric, no? https://www.anandtech.com/show/7065/intel-ssd-dc-s3500-review-480gb-part-1/3 Intel SSD DC S3500 Review (480GB): Part 1
2018-06-20 16:12:58
Jimtalksdata
NVM, that’s random write. But similar
2018-06-20 16:16:07
Rotonen
@Jimtalksdata not 100% unrelated, but no
2018-06-20 16:17:27
Rotonen
the snowblossom problem is sorta the same as what major physics experiments do - sifting through immense volumes of uninteresting data
2018-06-20 16:19:59
Rotonen
snowblossom is just easier in what is there to be found - it is exactly known what is sought, the signal is not noisy and the measurements do not have built in uncertainty
2018-06-20 16:21:18
Jimtalksdata
But still “random” as the access pattern is not predictable, yes?
2018-06-20 16:27:06
Fireduck
yeah, it is deterministic rather than random
2018-06-20 16:27:19
Fireduck
but for the purposes of a drive and io bus, it is random
2018-06-20 16:27:30
Fireduck
there is no way any precaching could predict the reads
2018-06-20 16:38:41
Fireduck
I was supposed to get my 970 pro yesterday but Amazon failed to ship it
2018-06-20 16:50:20
Rotonen
@Fireduck rather curious to the USD/MH/s
2018-06-20 17:02:05
Fireduck
I'll put it on the sheet when I get it running
2018-06-20 17:58:35
Clueless
USD fluctuates a lot with market, seller, ebay, etc
2018-06-20 18:07:42
Clueless
I think I'm going to write an escrow app for here and discord
2018-06-20 19:32:07
Rotonen
i trust your need to keep your reputation better than input sanitation on a chat bot
2018-06-20 19:40:52
Rotonen
@Clueless for readability, left-pad your average column so the commas align
2018-06-20 20:34:21
Fireduck
If you guys are doing most processing of any sort on that data I can output it in a easier form, like csv or pipe delimited
2018-06-20 20:34:22
Fireduck
or even json
2018-06-20 20:34:36
Fireduck
and not convert the numbers so you can do your own representation
2018-06-20 20:36:50
Tyler Boone
you can output it as a rocksdb
2018-06-20 20:37:00
Tyler Boone
that maximizes... something
2018-06-20 20:37:04
Fireduck
failure
2018-06-20 20:37:10
Fireduck
it maximizes failure
2018-06-20 20:37:25
Fireduck
would have to completely close it out for reads to be able to read it without errors
2018-06-20 20:37:50
Fireduck
I'm going to add AtomicFileOutputStream to duckutils
2018-06-20 20:38:06
Fireduck
writes to a temporary file and on close moves to final location, replacing anything there
2018-06-20 20:38:22
Fireduck
I keep doing that pattern and doing it right involves some strange to be windows compatible
2018-06-20 21:08:01
Rotonen
@Fireduck i can cope with about anything - mostly if you change outputs, version them or change log that in excruciating detail
2018-06-20 21:08:36
Rotonen
providing an interface is optimistically an eternal pact, etc.
2018-06-20 21:08:51
Fireduck
so you can cope with anything except wildly changing outputs with no notice?
2018-06-20 21:09:51
Rotonen
in finnish we have a saying ’like the devil reads the bible’, you sorta fulfill that there :P
2018-06-20 21:11:51
Rotonen
i can build the transmogrification pipeline when a change arrives, but would rather not - it works currently
2018-06-20 21:12:50
Fireduck
ok, cool
2018-06-20 21:13:39
Rotonen
and if you wanna give parsable output, i prefer formally valid xml, not json or other modern doohickeys ibm xmlstarlet is quite the powerhouse
2018-06-20 21:14:37
Rotonen
the current output goes well enough with gnu cut and gnu sort and printf
2018-06-20 21:14:45
Rotonen
(and xargs)
2018-06-20 21:20:21
Clueless
I hate xml >.>
2018-06-20 21:25:12
Fireduck
I remember when XML was hot
2018-06-20 21:25:25
Fireduck
Where are your XSLTs?
2018-06-20 21:28:46
Rotonen
i still deal with transforms daily
2018-06-20 21:29:20
Tyler Boone
XML with attributes is not the worst thing I can imagine
2018-06-20 21:29:46
Rotonen
i’ll do json as soon as someone shows me how to exchange non-IEEE floats over it reliably
2018-06-20 21:30:18
Clueless
@Rotonen just convert to flakes/bits and deal in ints ? :P
2018-06-20 21:31:19
Rotonen
no floats in currency handling, or what would mt. gox say
2018-06-20 21:32:36
Rotonen
@Clueless you jest, but understanding fixed point vs. float is so essential, i’ll leave this pointer here in <#CAS0CNA3U|general>
2018-06-20 21:32:52
Fireduck
hash rates are not a currency
2018-06-20 21:33:10
Rotonen
fair enough, lost track
2018-06-20 21:33:33
Rotonen
erm no, but sleep anyway ->
2018-06-20 21:33:40
Tyler Boone
json does have a couple big limitations
2018-06-20 21:33:50
Tyler Boone
1) lack of type specification 2) lack of comments
2018-06-20 21:34:23
Clueless
why not just protobuf it?
2018-06-20 21:34:58
Tyler Boone
because humans need to read it?
2018-06-20 21:35:17
Tyler Boone
or edit it
2018-06-20 21:36:19
Tyler Boone
or you want to consume it in code without compiling something with the entire schema
2018-06-20 21:41:13
Fireduck
thrift
2018-06-20 22:03:03
Fireduck
fun plan, convert snowblossom into GB of data read per unit