2019-02-14 07:34:29
i agree, well done
Rotonen
2019-02-14 07:35:24
polishing a website is an endless swamp, but the easy 80% is pretty much done
Rotonen
2019-02-14 15:18:40
I have been playing with lightning network
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:36:55
How's your experience?
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:37:21
I found `lnd` to be significantly more complex than your average Bitcoin full node, especially to program against. And I failed to make any significant amount of money through routing fees.
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:37:28
That said, it's still cool.
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:37:41
yeah, seems to be fairly advanced
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:38:11
I might look into integrating snowblossom with lightning. lnd is designed for multiple coins already.
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:38:25
It would be a lot of work, snowblossom does things rather differently than ltc and btc
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:38:48
We would have to make a go library of key functions
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:39:24
I think the cross-chain overlay possibilities is one of the coolest things about lightning.
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:39:26
Ah, another port.
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:39:36
And we're missing relative locktimes, right?
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:40:08
that can be added. not saying it would be trivial integration.
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:40:18
We have txout lock times based on clock time and block number
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:40:30
True, that's SIP3 right?
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:40:35
probably need tx level as well
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:40:38
Not having script is kind of elegant in its own way.
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:40:40
Yeah, I think so.
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:40:57
but I had always planned on adding that eventually
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:41:49
I wouldn't rush, the lightning network is still in an early phase really.
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:41:59
true
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:42:17
Although I'm curious to see how it'll pan out if it's really used as a "scaling solution". Can't get over the fact that the game theory is... weird. From a miner perspective.
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:42:19
I might do some load tests on it for my own entertainment
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:42:33
hah, who doesn't love load tests
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:42:39
yeah, it is like a PoS layer on top of a PoW coin
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:43:16
and if lightning every gets really big (like 1 million nodes) the ring routing stuff I've done for snow channels would actually solve routing there
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:43:26
without each node having to have an idea of all the channels
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:44:06
I should write that up more science like and send it out for people to throw rocks at
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:44:17
The DHT concept?
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:44:31
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the ins and outs of lightning routing, to be honest
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:44:49
it's hard to find neutral information too, since people are quite fanatically pro- or anti- LN
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:45:24
yeah, with the DHT each node maintains links across the ring based on its own position
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:45:35
lower density far from self, higher density closer
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:45:48
so to route, you pick the neighbor closest to target and use that
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:46:05
and that neighbor will have higher density links in the area of the target, since it is closer to it
Fireduck
2019-02-14 18:49:17
that seems superior to dijkstra's algo, at least on a large scale
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:49:47
plus DHT's have proven quite resilient at these scales already
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:49:59
curious to see how that'll work out in practice, though, some clever ideas for sure
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:51:26
it would have some similiar issues to routing in Freenet I suppose
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:52:30
and generic data streams don't deal with some of the issues payment channels do, e.g. capacity
Tilian
2019-02-14 18:52:39
LN routing for anything that isn't small change is still pretty dramatic
Tilian
2019-02-14 19:04:20
https://github.com/dianerey/lnsim hm, this is pretty nifty Lightning Network Simulator
Tilian
2019-02-14 22:39:38
Any update on the release date for the Android wallet?
fent
2019-02-14 22:39:53
Is there an ios wallet in the works?
fent
2019-02-14 22:40:26
You can try the beta version of the android wallet now if you like
Fireduck
2019-02-14 22:40:58
No IOS in the works
Fireduck