2018-11-23 00:20:01
@fydel i see you made a market cap thingy :P

Rotonen
2018-11-23 00:22:30
maybe putting that one on munin would be fun

Rotonen
2018-11-23 00:24:35
i see what you meant with the cgi zoom graphs being broken, can help at some point, have set those up a few times and there are a few silly gotchas there

Rotonen
2018-11-23 00:25:18
i think user permissions and systemd process private temp at least play into it

Rotonen
2018-11-23 00:25:48
i usually roll my own systemd services for that, will have to find the files somewhere

Rotonen
2018-11-23 05:41:31
@Joko did you disappear?

Clueless
2018-11-23 05:44:42
There is a little Joko in each of us

Fireduck
2018-11-23 05:44:49
because we ate him

Fireduck
2018-11-23 05:45:35
I'm not a fan of #f3c7fc

Clueless
2018-11-23 06:24:35
anything that is not white and between red and blue is probably fine

Fireduck
2018-11-23 06:25:39
#fbddff ?

Fireduck
2018-11-23 06:25:52
#eaddff

Fireduck
2018-11-23 06:26:13
anything off-white towards purple is fine with me

Fireduck
2018-11-23 09:46:40
@Rotonen good idea. will make a munin plugin when i am home from work.

fydel
2018-11-23 09:47:50
yeah. the cgi zoom is hell. i had it removed once but i forgot how i did it. :cry:

fydel
2018-11-23 10:35:27
well, not hell, just a bit oldfashioned in the way of blind assumptions

Rotonen
2018-11-23 15:51:46
if you could guide me, i would be more than happy.

fydel
2018-11-23 15:54:38
i am a munin enthusiast since 2004 but i never got the zoom going for me. :upside_down_face::zany_face:

fydel
2018-11-23 16:06:33
Setting up some infrastructure for things I'm working on -- https://snow.tools/ in case it happens to be useful for anyone.

Tilian
2018-11-23 20:08:14
My seeders are basically in shambles

Fireduck
2018-11-23 20:12:13
i have a gigabit on fields 7 and 8

Rotonen
2018-11-23 20:14:42
I should have everything but not online until the software finishes checking it

Fireduck
2018-11-23 20:16:12
And Zac just redid his setup, waiting on new drives

Fireduck
2018-11-23 22:20:50
I'm expanding from 14->38TB ZFS

Clueless
2018-11-23 22:38:24
that’s a lot of speculative snowfield storage :stuck_out_tongue:

penfold
2018-11-23 22:39:03
random idea for mass adoption: make the data in the snowfields happen to match popular torrents…

penfold
2018-11-23 22:39:10
Also tentacle porn

Fireduck
2018-11-23 22:39:42
The snow Fields have to be constructed in a specific way

Fireduck
2018-11-23 22:40:21
easy: s/merkle root/tentacle root/

penfold
2018-11-23 22:41:30
@Clueless do you run ZFS on Linux? Solaris? BSD? I’ve only used it on FreeBSD but these days run Linux machines…

penfold
2018-11-23 22:41:32
Glad someone pays attention

Fireduck
2018-11-23 22:41:48
@penfold debian

Clueless
2018-11-23 22:41:52
Zfs on fuse seems to work these days

Fireduck
2018-11-23 22:42:29
I miss the warm cozy feeling of scrub fixing all the errors :smile:

penfold
2018-11-23 22:42:47
can you boot off ZFS?

penfold
2018-11-23 22:42:52
I've used zfs for my backups for years

Fireduck
2018-11-23 22:43:00
never tired to boot from it, seems more trouble than worth

Fireduck
2018-11-23 22:43:08
`scrub repaired 0 in 5h36m with 0 errors on Thu Nov 22 18:12:49 2018`

Clueless
2018-11-23 22:43:19
maybe my hardware was too cheap lol

penfold
2018-11-23 22:43:35
I like being able to snapshot the OS

penfold
2018-11-23 22:44:01
although with docker perhaps I should just keep the host clean and do everything in containers…

penfold
2018-11-23 22:45:03
containers have a lot of unsolved storage scope issues

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:45:09
I’m currently using NFS to edit files directly on Linux hosts (with GPU etc.)… macOS client… it works but with some annoyances… anyone else got a better way?

penfold
2018-11-23 22:45:49
at least iSCSI support for docker is relying one buggy commercial tool and i’ve not looked deeper

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:45:55
I just can’t get used to Linux desktop :smile:

penfold
2018-11-23 22:46:30
I mostly use docker to make it quick and easy to recreate a particular environment on a different host (both my Mac and rigs)

penfold
2018-11-23 22:46:34
just set up something like puppet for that kinda stuff

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:46:54
I’ve not taken the time to learn any CM tools like that yet, sigh

penfold
2018-11-23 22:47:06
bonus points for wrangling containers and VMs with foreman or somesuch

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:47:42
hadn’t seen that before, thanks will take a peek

penfold
2018-11-23 22:48:02
if you’ve ever used any template rendering system, you’re 90% of the way to puppet / chef / ansible / saltstack

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:48:20
aka php for shell

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:48:34
that’s part of the problem - which one lol

penfold
2018-11-23 22:48:49
they all do about the same

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:48:57
I did some stuff with CloudFormation and that was painful but worked

penfold
2018-11-23 22:49:03
they can be push setups

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:49:09
or pull from a master

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:51:06
would you recommend any one of the four over the others to someone who’s never used any?

penfold
2018-11-23 22:51:12
no

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:51:27
roll a die if in doubt

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:51:28
I’m not yet able to compare the relative merits, and I’m loathe to learn enough of four to find out heh

penfold
2018-11-23 22:51:52
or go for nix if wanting a bear of a multiproblem to wrangle

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:52:13
all the commercial ones are on par

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:52:23
and nix is hard to describe

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:53:01
NixOps?

penfold
2018-11-23 22:54:53
nixops is one way to wield both nix the functional language, hydra the build system overlay thingy and nix the package manager without involving nixos the operating system

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:55:04
nix is.. different

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:55:38
i do not recommend forming conclusions on it before a couple of days into a deep dive

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:55:53
I use bash

Fireduck
2018-11-23 22:56:04
and cannot recommend one to do that without someone paying them for it

Rotonen
2018-11-23 22:58:52
`I’m currently using NFS to edit files directly on Linux hosts`
just ssh between them

Clueless
2018-11-23 22:59:00
and if working on them in bulk, learn `ansible`

Clueless
2018-11-23 22:59:50
depends on what you're doing exactly

Clueless
2018-11-23 22:59:51
sshfs for local editor use

Rotonen
2018-11-23 23:48:41
yes local editor use… I find sshfs too slow

penfold
2018-11-23 23:49:20
the simplest solution is to use linux desktop but well, I find I don’t like it vs macOS :smile:

penfold