2018-08-30 00:03:11
Okay I restarted, and it started to sync right up.
aikida3k
2018-08-30 00:16:25
@mjay you lucky son of a gun, as soon as you move it over there, you find a block!
aikida3k
2018-08-30 01:11:25
Speed hacks
Fireduck
2018-08-30 01:49:49
@Fireduck Have you thought of adding a stable coin component at some time in the future? XHV Haven is working on adding a stable coin feature to have two concurrent currencies XHV and XHVD. 1 XHVD=1 USD. They are doing this with burn and mint transactions. The dollar amount one burns of XHV becomes the amount of XHVD minted into a stable USD value. And if one wants to return to XHV one burns the amount of XHVD back into the value of XHV. So is XHV traded at $2 and I held 100 XHV and I wanted to turn it into XHVD I would get 200 XHVD. If XHV increased to $4 and I wanted to return the XHVD to XHV, I would get 50 XHV in return. The drawback of incorporating a stable token this way is that there is no way to regulate the outstanding supply of the primary currency unless the amount of primary coins able to be minted from the stable coin is limited to only what the current supply would be from mining only. The other way to solve it would be to only allow one way minting: Allowing the primary coin to be burned and minted into the stable coin. And then forcing the stable coin holders to buy on the exchange. That is actually the best way to incorporate a stable token. Then burning into the stable coin acts as a drain on supply and there is pent up demand from holders of the stable coin to buy up existing supply. That would work nicely.
aikida3k
2018-08-30 01:51:40
That sounds insane. So no, never thought of it.
Fireduck
2018-08-30 01:56:49
Sounds neat though, yes?
aikida3k
2018-08-30 01:57:10
I don't understand it yet but yes
Fireduck
2018-08-30 01:57:52
https://youtu.be/XLeUvZvuvAs YouTube Video: Sesame Street: Janelle Monae - Power of Yet
Fireduck
2018-08-30 01:58:51
Basically burn the primary coin into a stable coin that is the equivalent of $1. Then force the stable token holders to buy the remaining supply of the primary coin if they want back into the primary coin.
aikida3k
2018-08-30 01:59:18
It's a great way to drain supply.
aikida3k
2018-08-30 02:01:11
Something to think about
aikida3k
2018-08-30 02:06:17
Interesting. Sounds difficult to do right though. How does the network reliably know the exchange rate? I imagine it'd be hard to programmatically account for OTC valuations
Eric
2018-08-30 02:09:03
I have way funner insane plans in mind
Fireduck
2018-08-30 02:22:03
@Eric you use an oracle of an average of exchange prices. Kind of like how coinmarketcap displays prices, as a weighted average based on exchange volume
aikida3k
2018-08-30 02:22:45
@Fireduck that's exciting.
aikida3k
MakerDAO is a live implementation of this
https://makerdao.com Dai is a decentralized digital currency with stable value; the next step in the evolution of money.
https://mkr.tools/ MKR tools is an interactive dashboard to track CDPs and the overall DAI system.
i see a ton of projects trying to reinvent this
2018-08-30 09:14:59
@Rotonen who is 7wnx27adsfs53c38swl9tfsv4z7hazha5y47y5x2? He has 448k unpaid shares on your pool, thats worth a lot of blocks
mjay
2018-08-30 09:52:36
@mjay not really that many, depends on how quickly new blocks are hit
Rotonen
2018-08-30 09:55:10
@mjay seems you’ve on your way to overtaking too, i think the pool counts things as diff 22 shares, and blocks are diff ~38 currently
Rotonen
2018-08-30 09:59:44
@mjay in about ~4 days you’ll have cleared the table if you stick to it and the nethash does not explode in the meanwhile
Rotonen
2018-08-30 10:02:42
or maybe a lot sooner, actually, you’ve already hit 3 blocks it seems
Rotonen
2018-08-30 10:25:46
3 blocks with 83k shares, thats over 100 coins i missed so far
mjay
2018-08-30 10:26:04
I´ll switch to hamsters pool again, this is just a waste
mjay
2018-08-30 11:03:09
yeah, you’d have to bring a few people over to clear the table in reasonable effort
Rotonen
2018-08-30 11:04:17
i think that’s still mining remnants from when nethash was over 2Gh/s
Rotonen
2018-08-30 11:05:37
shouldn't these shares have gone away after 5 found blocks. because of pplns?
fydel
2018-08-30 11:25:09
i think the last block the pool found was in early july
Rotonen
2018-08-30 11:25:46
and now three
Rotonen
2018-08-30 11:26:00
so in 2 more blocks, it would
Rotonen
2018-08-30 11:27:55
@Fireduck btw. the discussion above is why i’d like the estimates of the next payout there
Rotonen
2018-08-30 11:28:43
as in shares about to fall off, or just rather 5 columns of shares
Rotonen
2018-08-30 11:32:55
ah. okay. that makes sense.
fydel
2018-08-30 11:43:39
just 2 more blocks is okay for me, I was expecting like 448k/83k * 3 = 16 blocks
mjay
2018-08-30 11:55:25
2xEpyc 7601, 64 cores 128 Threads total, 16x16GB DDR4 Reg 2666, mining from ramdisk => 5.1Mh/s
mjay
2018-08-30 11:56:02
Not as much as I expected
mjay
2018-08-30 11:57:24
620W at the wall
mjay
2018-08-30 12:10:35
@mjay that’s 16 NUMA nodes, you gotta ensure your seeks distribute evenly across them
Rotonen
2018-08-30 12:11:55
erm, 6 NUMA nodes with asymmetric channel counts?
Rotonen
2018-08-30 12:12:18
as in 8 channels per socket and 3 nodes per socket, funtimes
Rotonen
2018-08-30 12:12:48
you need to find a way to lock memory
Rotonen
2018-08-30 12:14:44
how can I even find out which page is mapped to which channel?
mjay
2018-08-30 12:26:31
start from this as a primer
https://www.open-mpi.org/projects/hwloc/
Rotonen
2018-08-30 12:27:02
it gets gnarly when you go deeper into the guts of modern hardware
Rotonen
2018-08-30 12:29:54
Just curious, is SnowBlossom paying a listing fee to be on qtrade?
CryptoQuan
2018-08-30 13:33:40
i am not sure. but i think not.
fydel
2018-08-30 13:34:08
@mjay what is the bottleneck with that configuration?
fydel
2018-08-30 14:28:19
@CryptoQuan i’d also love to know how that sorta stuff works in general for different kinds of exchanges, but that’s not really something one can expect to be transparent
Rotonen
2018-08-30 14:30:27
but on a general note qtrade seems to have their collective head on straight, and that’d imply to me they’re in for the long haul for anything they list and thus they’d not need such for keeping the lights on
Rotonen
2018-08-30 17:07:34
In my discussions with them, they seem very sharp and asking the right questions
Fireduck
2018-08-30 17:08:01
we are not paying a listing fee
Fireduck
2018-08-30 22:12:33
now with even more stats and links people might actually pick up on
https://snowplough.kekku.li/ A Snowblossom mining pool which tries to do things slow, steady, stable and thorough.
Rotonen