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2019-11-27 21:07:15
Rotonen
which jar is the channels node one?
2019-11-27 21:07:43
Rotonen
did my usual and did not end up with a jar which looks plausible ```#!/usr/bin/env bash bazel clean for target in $(grep name BUILD | cut -d'"' -f2) do jar_name="$target"_deploy.jar bazel build ":$jar_name" mv bazel-bin/"$jar_name" "$jar_name" done # EOF```
2019-11-27 21:11:08
Fireduck
Did you do this in the channels repo?
2019-11-27 21:11:22
Rotonen
oh, separate repo
2019-11-27 21:12:04
Fireduck
bazel build :ChannelNode_deploy.jar :ChannelIceLeaf_deploy.jar
2019-11-27 21:12:22
Fireduck
Node only and GUI respectively
2019-11-27 21:12:53
Rotonen
meh, i have my bash thingy
2019-11-27 21:13:23
Fireduck
sure, it was just the easiest way to convey the information
2019-11-27 21:13:52
Rotonen
is the documentation in the wiki?
2019-11-27 21:14:04
Rotonen
i assume that thing wants some documentation
2019-11-27 21:14:12
Rotonen
and needs a TCP port open, or somesuch
2019-11-27 21:14:18
Fireduck
for the node without gui?
2019-11-27 21:14:24
Rotonen
just the node
2019-11-27 21:15:06
Fireduck
config/node.conf is an example
2019-11-27 21:15:25
Fireduck
not documented in the wiki yet, I am driving most people towards the GUI
2019-11-27 21:15:44
Rotonen
how does the channel list work as a list?
2019-11-27 21:16:19
Rotonen
and those ports seem client oriented - how do i only take part in the hosting?
2019-11-27 21:17:09
Rotonen
where does it look for the node.conf per default?
2019-11-27 21:18:22
Fireduck
same as all of my other things, it expects the config file to be the first command line parameter
2019-11-27 21:18:39
Rotonen
ah yes
2019-11-27 21:18:55
Fireduck
yeah, for just hosting you can remove web and socks ports
2019-11-27 21:19:06
Fireduck
the channel list takes a comma separated list
2019-11-27 21:19:35
Fireduck
however, when you add something once it puts into a table and will resubscribe on restart even if it is no longer in the config
2019-11-27 21:20:10
Fireduck
port= is the network port
2019-11-27 21:20:14
Fireduck
I left it off, there is a default
2019-11-27 21:20:27
Fireduck
it will autodetect ipv4 ipv6 and upnp
2019-11-27 21:20:39
Rotonen
why does it need a wallet?
2019-11-27 21:20:54
Fireduck
So all communication between nodes is done using TLS
2019-11-27 21:21:04
Fireduck
which is signed by the keys of the node
2019-11-27 21:21:08
Rotonen
kk
2019-11-27 21:21:09
Fireduck
so it needs a wallet to store the node key
2019-11-27 21:21:12
Rotonen
can it make me one?
2019-11-27 21:21:17
Fireduck
it will
2019-11-27 21:21:30
Fireduck
it makes a wallet with only one key
2019-11-27 21:21:37
Fireduck
if it gets a wallet with more than one key, it breaks
2019-11-27 21:21:57
Rotonen
ipv6 only?
2019-11-27 21:22:14
Fireduck
works fine on ipv4
2019-11-27 21:22:20
Fireduck
I have a seed node on both
2019-11-27 21:22:31
Fireduck
it will try to map an UPNP port if it can
2019-11-27 21:22:42
Rotonen
took a while to figure out ipv4
2019-11-27 21:22:53
Rotonen
no upnp anywhere near my stuff
2019-11-27 21:23:07
Fireduck
probably for the best
2019-11-27 21:23:11
Rotonen
```Nov 27, 2019 9:21:57 PM snowblossom.channels.ChannelNode <init> INFO: My node address is: node:ut58s0rxxtyqe8u3c695xt59drxxf7vspz79p60a```
2019-11-27 21:23:16
Rotonen
well, it's done a thing now
2019-11-27 21:23:29
Fireduck
yeah, it will join up with the DHT
2019-11-27 21:23:48
Rotonen
so how do i make it be helpful too?
2019-11-27 21:24:24
Fireduck
if you are willing to have it be on a hostname or ip that I can put in the source code, it would be good to have an additional seed
2019-11-27 21:24:41
Rotonen
hostname, ipv4 and ipv6, sure
2019-11-27 21:24:45
Fireduck
other than that, it is already being a useful member of the DHT assuming it can get incoming connections
2019-11-27 21:24:49
Rotonen
do i need to expose the port?
2019-11-27 21:24:53
Fireduck
yeah
2019-11-27 21:25:00
Fireduck
you can change the port if you'd like
2019-11-27 21:25:08
Rotonen
meh, default ports are usually fine
2019-11-27 21:25:41
Fireduck
The cool thing is that we hard code the key IDs of the seeds, so that communication is actually proper TLS with a validated cert
2019-11-27 21:25:51
Fireduck
and then later peers that are learned always come with a key ID
2019-11-27 21:26:09
Fireduck
so all communication always knows what key to expect so it is all validated certs for the entire network
2019-11-27 21:26:18
Rotonen
could i also just use a real cert?
2019-11-27 21:26:33
Rotonen
or is that a permanent self signed thing?
2019-11-27 21:26:50
Fireduck
no, I am doing some strange things. Signing the cert with the node key and putting that in x509 extension metadata
2019-11-27 21:26:57
Rotonen
kk
2019-11-27 21:27:09
Fireduck
The cert itself is actually one per runtime, just signed with the static node key
2019-11-27 21:27:35
Rotonen
where does it store that?
2019-11-27 21:27:47
Rotonen
as in i need to add that to a higher degree of a backup scheme now
2019-11-27 21:29:13
Rotonen
and `4862` is the port?
2019-11-27 21:29:21
Rotonen
only non-IANA i have something listening on
2019-11-27 21:29:35
Fireduck
the wallet path is where it keeps the node key
2019-11-27 21:29:44
Fireduck
and yeah, should be backed up. :wink:
2019-11-27 21:29:47
Rotonen
gotcha, will just backup that wallet
2019-11-27 21:29:54
Fireduck
4862, yep
2019-11-27 21:33:13
Rotonen
i'll briefly take it down to make it a systemd service instead of just directly running it
2019-11-27 21:34:03
Fireduck
sure
2019-11-27 21:34:58
Rotonen
up, persistent, and manages its own firewall and other resources within bounds
2019-11-27 21:35:37
Rotonen
now, how do i make it host your stuff, by listing channels in the config?
2019-11-27 21:36:07
Fireduck
yeah, for now.
2019-11-27 21:36:23
Fireduck
Eventually I'll probably add an authenticated local-only rpc port like SnowBlossomClient
2019-11-27 21:36:59
Rotonen
how do i list more than one channel? the example config does not show or hint
2019-11-27 21:37:12
Fireduck
comma separeted
2019-11-27 21:37:18
Fireduck
channel_list=a,b,c
2019-11-27 21:37:29
Rotonen
gotcha
2019-11-27 21:37:36
Rotonen
which channels do you have?
2019-11-27 21:37:52
Fireduck
They can also be via name: channel_list=hello,worstchat,chan:jw96y2w9cvvfmrese73vqv2zawc5v77ljgqwycdl,testblog
2019-11-27 21:38:41
Rotonen
i think in hello, worstchat and testblog i have very little interest
2019-11-27 21:38:45
Rotonen
what's that unnamed one?
2019-11-27 21:38:51
Fireduck
I can't remember
2019-11-27 21:39:03
Rotonen
i thought you had the site at least?
2019-11-27 21:39:12
Rotonen
or is that hello?
2019-11-27 21:39:33
Fireduck
hello is the test site that just says "good job, it works"
2019-11-27 21:39:42
Fireduck
chan:jw96y2w9cvvfmrese73vqv2zawc5v77ljgqwycdl is the clone of http://snowblossom.org
2019-11-27 21:40:15
Rotonen
i remember noting two worthy of hosting
2019-11-27 21:40:19
Rotonen
that is definitely the other
2019-11-27 21:40:26
Rotonen
do you somehow dump the wiki too?
2019-11-27 21:40:39
Fireduck
no, not yet
2019-11-27 21:41:42
Rotonen
code repositories?
2019-11-27 21:42:30
Rotonen
if i am to believe past me https://snowblossom.slack.com/archives/CAT1SNYDV/p1574016252044400 repos and the main site i’m on board for
2019-11-27 21:42:58
Rotonen
oh well, for now, the site
2019-11-27 21:43:34
Fireduck
awesome. Having an additional seed I can put in is super helpful.
2019-11-27 21:44:00
Rotonen
poke me if the firewall becomes a hedgehog
2019-11-27 21:44:10
Rotonen
the service autodiscovery fabric is fickle sometimes
2019-11-27 21:45:04
Rotonen
is that node address also a valid snowblossom address?
2019-11-27 21:45:37
Fireduck
yes and no. The client will tell you it is invalid, because 'node' isn't right
2019-11-27 21:45:53
Fireduck
and if you change 'node' to 'snow' or leave it off, it will still fail
2019-11-27 21:46:01
Fireduck
because the type is encoded in the checksum
2019-11-27 21:46:21
Rotonen
that's nice, was thinking people can start to donate to those, and minimizing tears is nice
2019-11-27 21:46:29
Rotonen
kk
2019-11-27 21:46:31
Fireduck
but if you were to reencode it to fix the checksum, you could send funds to it and then spend them using the wallet on your node
2019-11-27 21:46:32
Rotonen
very good
2019-11-27 21:46:43
Rotonen
meh
2019-11-27 21:47:01
Rotonen
the channel db already uses 300M disk
2019-11-27 21:47:10
Rotonen
i suppose that's just the schema or something silly like that :stuck_out_tongue:
2019-11-27 21:47:16
Fireduck
probably
2019-11-27 21:47:47
Rotonen
seems to be a picky eater too `INFO: I don't want chunk: a5a3ffb8a3656327a8707f7260c893e2b4984fd8722aa533b37453d5687258f4`
2019-11-27 21:49:23
Fireduck
yeah...the chunk syncronization is not perfect. It ends up asking a bunch of peers for things, sometimes the same things and then saving whatever it gets first.
2019-11-27 21:50:16
Rotonen
designing for idempotency is nice
2019-11-27 21:50:20
Rotonen
allows for such
2019-11-27 21:50:26
Fireduck
right
2019-11-27 21:50:56
Rotonen
mrplow takes a surprising amount of cpu, even though it's not doing anything
2019-11-27 21:51:15
Fireduck
that is strange
2019-11-27 21:52:16
Rotonen
the node has used 17min cpu time in the same time as it has burnt through 45min cpu time
2019-11-27 21:52:22
Rotonen
this is over a few weeks
2019-11-27 21:54:47
Rotonen
i'd assume the node to actually do more of those two, as no one is mining on my pool
2019-11-27 21:55:25
Fireduck
yeah, and in fact the node has to do the hard part which is building the new block templates for the pool to distribute
2019-11-27 21:56:13
Rotonen
probably missing an interrupt-esque sleep somewhere
2019-11-27 21:56:25
Rotonen
overeager networking or somesuch
2019-11-27 21:57:54
Fireduck
oh yeah, you probably want to point your channels node at your snowblossom node: node_uri=,,
2019-11-27 21:58:42
Fireduck
If you leave it blank, it used built in snowblossom seed nodes
2019-11-27 21:59:31
Rotonen
gotcha, done
2019-11-27 22:00:24
Rotonen
oh, you init a new rocksdb per channel, simple enough
2019-11-27 22:00:59
Fireduck
yeah, will have to add quota management and ability to nuke a channel from disk later
2019-11-27 22:01:19
Rotonen
should work and you've not done something silly in regards to binding only to specific interfaces, excluding localhost?
2019-11-27 22:01:32
Fireduck
yeah, that should be fine
2019-11-27 22:04:56
Rotonen
hardcoded, classy
2019-11-27 22:05:42
Fireduck
absolutely
2019-11-27 22:06:07
Fireduck
It is a little verbose with all the protobuf baggage, but I prefer that than making my own format and parsing it
2019-11-27 22:06:18
Rotonen
fair
2019-11-27 22:06:22
Fireduck
however, I guess I did make a format for the uri
2019-11-27 22:06:23
Fireduck
eh
2019-11-27 22:17:16
Rotonen
ping me if you try to put any other project useful channels out
2019-11-27 22:17:38
Fireduck
will do